From: M
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 7:17 PM
To: Kipp, Thomas J
Subject: more unknown (to me) music I just found out about
you know of these guys?
a facebook friend posted it. I never heard of them.
They sound historically very important eh?
M
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From: Kipp, Thomas J
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:07 AM
To: M
Subject: RE: more unknown (to me) music I just found out about….Plus: Peter Stampfel!
Know OF, yes, definitely. Notably knowledgeable ABOUT, no, not at all.
I was going to guess that I own some of their work on that Broadside box set from a few years back, but now see that I was mistaken—
So I’m not absolutely certain that I own anything at all by Koerner, Ray & Glover, alas.
Then again, I’ve never been all that hot for harp players in general, nor for white, blues-lovin’ folkies, no matter how skilled or sincere.
But I do understand that such folks DID provide the “gateway” to both urban and country blues for thousands of music lovers o’er the past 50 years, and I certainly credit that accomplishment.
In 2010 we’re just well beyond the need for earnest replication as a means of cultural transmission, now that we’ve got Amazon & YouTube as our “Global Jukeboxes”, and Wikipedia as our ubiquitous source of concise, generally reliable, historical/biographical info re: arcana of every sort!
The ORIGINALS are now so close at hand, it seems pointless to settle for derivative versions, no matter how mildly unique or even borderline compelling on their own terms [e.g. John Hammond, Jr., Larry Coryell, Paul Butterfield or Country Joe McDonald solo, et many al.], at least until we’ve [metaphorically] “worn out the grooves” on the earlier recordings of their idols.
Still, I feel as though I should investigate a bit further in this instance….
Thanks M,
Tom
P.S. If you haven’t yet investigated the work of my Pop Conference pal Peter Stampfel [Holy Modal Rounders, Fugs, HAVE MOICY! album, his solo albums with The Bottlecaps and those simply under his own name or various aliases], I suspect that’d be far more amusing, enlightening and especially FUN than Koerner, Ray & Glover….or anyone ELSE who came outta that great Greenwich Village folk scene of the early-Sixties, aside from Bob Dylan, of course. Here’s two links to pertinent commentary from one of his greatest champions, Bob Xgau—
http://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist2.php?id=1071
http://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/rock/stampfel-99.php
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Subject: Peter Stampfel rules! He RULES!
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 11:05:42 -0700
From: Kipp, Thomas J.
To: M
Hi M:
Andmoreagain….
Here’s those brilliantly entertaining liner notes that Christgau mentions in his brief review of this latest Stampfel album, of which I’d been unaware until this morning—
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/PeterStampfel1
Amd it looks like Peter has yet another album coming out this month—
Very prolific for a gent in his seventies, that’s for sure, and such an astonishingly witty man. Also undoubtedly the nicest sorta-famous person I’ve ever met! [He’s called and e-mailed me on several occasions since the one time we met, at the 2004 Pop Conf, at which he performed about 30 of the songs he was then recording for his yet-unreleased Magnum Opus, which would have included one song from EACH year of the 20th Century, plus a 500-word essay about every one!
Peter has never found a label willing to release it, although I believe he finished selecting and recording everything a few years back already. Such a damned shame if it never comes out in the 4cd box set form he originally envisioned!
Fair to say that it may be the single recording I most want to hear and own, at this point in my life!
By the by, that Holy Modal Rounders documentary is well worth getting—highly entertaining and very moving, at the same time. It played here at The Northwest Film Forum a few years back—
Anyhow, so much Stampfel-ian goodness to enjoy!
Tom
P.S. Here’s the overview, courtesy of our pals at Wiki—
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Stampfel
And also the incredible interview from Perfect Sound Forever, of which this is a hot li’l taste—
PSF: So you and Weber started the Rounders?
Yeah. We kept changing the name. First it was the Total Quintessence Stomach Pumpers. Then the Temporal Worth High Steppers. Then The Motherfucker Creek Babyrapers. That was just a joke name. He was Rinky-Dink Steve the Tin Horn and I was Fast Lightning Cumquat. He was Teddy Boy Forever and I was Wild Blue Yonder. It kept changing names. Then it was the Total Modal Rounders. Then when we were stoned on pot and someone else, Steve Close maybe, said Holy Modal Rounders by mistake. We kept putting out different names and wait until someone starts calling us that then. When we got to Holy Modal Rounders, everyone decided by acclamation that we were the Holy Modal Rounders. That’s the practical way to get named.PSF: So this happened before you started working with Ed Sanders and the Fugs?
Weber and Antonia knew Sanders before they knew me. One of the reasons I felt so weird about him (Weber) before I met him was because he wrote this piece of filthy doggerel for a mimeographed zine called Fuck You, a magazine of the arts which Sanders was doing. It was a very daring name back in 1962. He has these notes on the contributors in the back and he described Weber as having written this poem after an all-night sexual romp in the Central Park Zoo. I believed it! Sanders would make up things like that and people like me would say “Wow, what a free spirit.” To fuck a gazelle all night long in the zoo. I’m sure he would have if the gazelle had been friendly.
And, what the hell, here’s their amazing 1968 appearance on Rowan & Martin’s Laugh-In! [“You’ve Got The Right String Baby, But The Wrong Yo-Yo”]
Dig Peter’s proto-RAW POWER silver lame pants! Was this The True Atonal Beginning of Punk?! Served up via the most popular program on National Television, no less! By the by, that’s famed actor/playwright [and future paramour of both Patti Smith and Jessica Lange] Sam Shepard on drums!! The mind simply BOGGLES!